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When it comes down to it, ultimately the laws of physics/science/nature have to be suspended in order for the universe to come into existence. Even the atheists have to admit that. Since matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed (excluding relativity but even then you have to have either matter or energy in order to get the other), it only makes sense that you have to have some force that operates beyond the laws of the universe (even then, logic dictates that there must be rules that govern in situations outside the normal laws of the universe). But there is a principle that cannot be ignored: cause and effect.

There is apparently some bizarre theory that I confess I don't understand that says energy can be created, apparently randomly. Okay, let's suppose for argument's sake that is the case. But unless I'm wrong, that theory doesn't allow for anywhere near the amount of energy needed for the creation of the universe. But still, nothing is truly random. What we call something random we really mean we don't understand the variables, right?

The method I present will probably be criticized as overly simplistic :iconchallengeacceptedplz: because it is simple enough that a little kid seems more likely to pose it than an adult.
Step 1: Ask how the universe came to be.
Step 2: Continue to ask "why did that happen?" until the atheist is unable to answer.
Step 3: Ask if they agree that there was a cause, even if they are unable to state what the cause was.
Step 3a: If they agree, ask if they'd agree if there was an infinite series of events.
Step 3b: If they disagree, point out that they agree that there was a beginning point to the universe beyond their understanding.
Step 4a: If they agree, clarify that they believe there was an infinite series of events beyond their comprehension, and ask if it doesn't make more sense for God to exist.
Step 4b: Ask if it isn't remotely possible that the cause of the start of the universe was God.

Let me add a little more meat to my argument by pointing out a few things/adding a few comments.
1: This could be made quicker by asking what the atheist would place the chances of God existing, then comparing it to the astronomical chances of this universe coming to exist without him.
2: You could take the atheist argument that everything is random to the logical extension that the laws of reality are random as well. Supposedly this argument has been refuted, which I have to be skeptical about because the claim came from someone who denies the historical existence of Jesus, zero intellectual honesty going on there.
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TheOneKingLeek Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Who's to say it was THE GOD? Why couldn't it have been multiple deities like that of Norse Religion...or Greek, or Egyptian, or the original Roman religion (Basically the same as Greek.)? I'm not here to start any arguments nor am I here to prove that God doesn't exist or any other deity. We all have our own beliefs...our own theories... theistic or atheistic. This is actually the first time I have seen someone give a valid argument about creation and formation of the universe and what-have-you. Good journal entry...definitely intrigued by it.
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Tepheris Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I rule out the false gods of Norse, Greek, and Egyptian religions because if they were real, they would still have sizable worshipers.
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TheOneKingLeek Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
hmm....very true.
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Plairse Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
*snap crackle pop* Tephy owned you people
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DiverseCitizen Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Student Writer
Percentage that shows God exists: 50%. There's only two variables, either he does or he doesn't.
Percentage that shows the likelihood evolution created everything we see today: 1 out of infinity. People are still discovering species to this day, so it's impossible to show how small the literal percentage must have been for everything to happen on accident. 0. Googolplex something%.

Just looking at the math itself, which is more believable?

Great article, BTW.
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SailorMoonAndSonicX Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmmm, never thought of it that way, yet it makes sense. Interesting!
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kaitobunny88 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
There was one teacher in my county that told his students that according to science, you couldn't prove God was real because you could not see, hear, feel, smell, or taste him. And one student raised their hand and asked "Can you see, hear, smell, touch, or taste your brain, professor?" And he couldn't find anything to say back.
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BlameThe1st Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The one retort they seem to give is “how do we know this is God?” The best reply to this is to ask “how do we know it’s not God?”
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FreeSpeechGuy Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
The retort I often hear is "Oh yea? Well who created God? Checkmate!" *facepalm*
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